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Ok - Feedback on the New "Upgraded" Site. Before I begin, there has been a lot of grief taken and given for Members voicing their "Opinions" about the Site and this needs to stop. We all have our opinions and we are all entitled to the right to voice those opinions. That freedom of speach is one of the things that made the NSMC Site what it was and is. I am going to give my "Honest" Oprinion of the site and will take whatever complaints and crap I am given for doing so. The Site was Changed for reasons that benefit the Club and their ability to run and host their own site giving more control over content and structure. I feel from a Business standpoint the change was a beneficial one for the Club. The change allowed the restructure, and ability to add more features to draw new Members and give current Members more out of the site. Some people like it some do not. You can never please everyone. But as a Business transaction the change will bring more income and lessen expendatures for site maintenance. There are issues that need to be resolved, and they have been stated numerous times and we have been patiently awaiting the corrections and release of upgrades to the software that will hopefully create a simpler to use site. I am sure the Club is doing everything it can to remedy the problems, and return some of the features we were used to and are presently missing. I hope it happens. I do however have a msjor concern. The biggest problem with the present site is that when the change occurred one Major " Fubar" occurred that I hope can be fixed. The "Heart" of the site that we had that gave this site a "Life" and a "Family" feel has been lost and I have not seen much hope for it's return. The Posting has almost come to a"Comatose" Statelinge and the "Friendly down home feeel has been replaced with a Business like feel-- Making a Post has become more like a bank transaction than a Friendly phone call. I used to Enjoy viewing, posting and just chatting- now I just stop in to see if any "Life" has returned to my once pleasant "Home". I will pray for the return of that "Aura" that made visiting the Site like going out for a Friday night with the Boys, or just chewing the Bull in the Garage while working on a ride. Well that about sums up my "Feedback" on the site, If I offended anyone OH well they asked for feedback and that's mine. Please return the "Life" to our site. Edit: I do Love this Club and all the Friends I have made. I consider all of you Family and have nothing against you guys. We have had our disagreements and some Crap has happened that has been swept under the rug for a new start. I am just saying this Site- which is a MAJOR part of our Club needs to be taken off of Life Suppport and get it's heart jump-started before it falls in with the masses of other car Sites that are nothing but Technical Gumbo. We had something great going and that has fallen by the wayside and that sincerely saddens me. We have lost a few of our Regularas .-how many more do we have to lose?? This was the Best Site I eve Saw and we made it great- lets get together and conquer the technical crap ourselves and make this site The Family Being we knew. It's up to us -as Giv so eloquently has stated the Club Honcho's are working on the Tech stuff but nothing they do will revive this site- We made the first one lets make this one.
* Life Member* - 12/18/2006 Long Island NY Yup Jacket Too- Old School Rules Recycle- Crush an Import Don't Mess With My Club - My Friends- Or My Ride- http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/index.php?referral/39868/
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AMEN BROTHER, COUDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MY SELF.
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Wheel; You bring up several good points. I agree that the site has
changed, but change comes all the time, not only here at this site.
Life is full of change and like it or not we have to deal with it. As
for the "life" of the site, that is the members themselves that control
the LIFE of the site. I believe that we the people who visit and
participate in the forums are the ones who give life to the site. We
have to get our attitudes out of the gutter and quit blaming the
"admin" for that.
Giv; I think your opinion is a little harsh. (my opinion only).
The folks who are working on the site upgrades have many problems to
deal with and as such they don't always have time to answer each email.
I was having problems logging on last week, don't know what
happened but I couldn't get on. I sent an email to the member
services desk and they got me back on with no problem. So I thank them.
So I think that we all need to have a little patience with this change and I think we will be alright.
I had to spout off so take it as you will.
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Cuda, I think you took me all wrong. I am not complaining and did not say anything that the Club is will do can fix this. Not all of us will ever agree on this site. Change happens- yes, but not all of it is good- Remember "NEW COKE" or "COKE II" ? The change has happened and I reallize there is nothing that can change that. BUT My Point was WE need to get together and revive this site before it's too Late. We have people complaining about "Off Topic" Psts and such, but we always did that. In my opinion-right now any post made is just breathing life back into our Baby. ONLY WE can revive this Site and I know MOST of us are Upset and Aggrivated, but we need to cope with the Loss of Our Old Site and Build a Bigger and Better one. If you LOST a ride you would mourn it's loss, but in time build a new Better one. Let's get off our Asses and do something- the Club can't do anything we MUST. That was my Point.
* Life Member* - 12/18/2006 Long Island NY Yup Jacket Too- Old School Rules Recycle- Crush an Import Don't Mess With My Club - My Friends- Or My Ride- http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/index.php?referral/39868/
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Well said Whellman, I concur with you when you stated that the task of making this site what we want it to be rest squarly upon OUR shoulders.As hot rodders and as Americans we are the ultimate can do people. It is not in keeping with my feeling to become part of the entitlment society.The thing that I have been most proud of in life , are the thing which I have worked the hardest to get. I feel that making this club/site what we want it to be is OUR job, and no one elses. carguy8
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Yea wheel I do agree with you and the more we post, the better it will be. We will get the life back.
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Well said Wheelman I to agree we need to work together and fix the new site and get back to talking about CARS, don't you think so?
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I'm with you guys all the way. Now that the old site is officially gone, we have no choice but to try our best to get the feel of the old site transferred to this one. Once everyone gets more comfortable here, the car talk will return. I'm sure when "car weather" spreads to more of the country that will help a lot also. Hard to get into talking cars when it's cold, wet, windy and generally crappy out. Anyways, I would like to thank the admin or whoever takes care of these things, for fixing the page numbers so you can see them at the top of the screen. Now, about those darn smilies.............................................. :) NSMC member since 02/12/05, LIFE MEMBER last couple years Had 708 posts on the old site. Street Machine: 1979 Dodge Aspen 440/auto. Owned since 1987. (Avitar is not my Aspen) Rib Mountain-suburb of Wausau WI
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I would still like to see a Location of where a member is.
My lugnuts have more torque than your ricer!
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I think the more we post about cars the less we will think about some of this other stuff.
To that end I started a list of all the cars, motorcycles and trucks I
have owned over the years and when I have it done I will start a new
post and see what that starts.
Member since 2005.
'64 Valiant convertible
'65 Barracuda
Southern Minn.
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By the way 65, If you go to your account, you can add or update your
signature to what ever you want to say. I just added my cars and
location soeverytime I post it will be included.
Give it a try.
Member since 2005.
'64 Valiant convertible
'65 Barracuda
Southern Minn.
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Thanks to whoever is responsible for repairing the Page Number error. we can now cross that one of our list. Progress I can see. Keep up the good work on the rest of our issues and we will slowly get happier.
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Long Island NY
Yup Jacket Too-
Old School Rules
Recycle- Crush an Import
Don't Mess With My Club - My Friends- Or My Ride-
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Cuda, I just thought it would be better if we knew where everyone is from. I doubt if most will add it. We'll see.
My lugnuts have more torque than your ricer!
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Wheel;
What page # error are you taling about? Nothing has changed on my end. Still can't see the page #s.
Member since 2005.
'64 Valiant convertible
'65 Barracuda
Southern Minn.
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yea,instead of a black band at top and bottom , its grey now and you can see the page numbers.
My lugnuts have more torque than your ricer!
* Life Member* Lewisburg, Ohio
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If you are browsing using Microsoft Internet Exploiter, then you should now be seeing gray bars at the top and bottom instead of the black that it was. But, if using Firefox Browser, (which I prefer to use because Internet Exploiter sucks wazoo hairs by comparison) then we are still seeing the same black bars. That's one of the fun things about website design. A site needs to be tested in different browsers, and different operating system platforms (Windows vs. Mac) to find any possible glitches. There is still a browser compatibility issue that needs to be addressed. Wes...Wes.....where or fart thou, my Wes? ;)
NSMC Member Since 2/22/05
2269 Posts in Ye Olde Website
Eats Rice and Poops Out Fords!
Objects In Mirror Are Slower Than They Appear!
69 Camaro, 91 Camaro, 69 Vette, 79 Vette, 86 Fiero GT
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I hate to break the news to you guys but I mostly use Firefox myself and I saw it get fixed yesterday afternoon when I logged on. Take a look at the attached screenshot I just took. PS - Why, I fart right here Camaro69.
Wes
Online Editor, Street Thunder Magazine Good at Stripping Nuts and Knuckles
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OK, I have the fix...It's a browser cache flushing issue! If you are still seeing black bars instead of gray, hold down the Ctrl key on your keyboard while hitting your F5 key at the top of your keyboard. Not only does that refresh your page, but it also flushes the website's old cache files (crap that websites store on your computer's hard drive to make for faster return trips to the same site), and replaces them with the updated ones. I'll bet you were just going to say the same thing, weren't you Wes? You fart smeller....I mean smart feller!!! ;)
NSMC Member Since 2/22/05
2269 Posts in Ye Olde Website
Eats Rice and Poops Out Fords!
Objects In Mirror Are Slower Than They Appear!
69 Camaro, 91 Camaro, 69 Vette, 79 Vette, 86 Fiero GT
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Hey Hey Ho Ho it works. Now that I cycled the old cache I can see it on both IE and Mozzilla. Thanks guys. Now about the fix for jumping back to the top of the first page after each post....... Member since 2005.
'64 Valiant convertible
'65 Barracuda
Southern Minn.
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How about a delete button in the edit post . Im old and can't remember if I hit the post it now button once or twice. It will post the same dam thing twice if you hit it more than once.  
My lugnuts have more torque than your ricer!
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That's what happens when you got the jitters, 65!
NSMC Member Since 2/22/05
2269 Posts in Ye Olde Website
Eats Rice and Poops Out Fords!
Objects In Mirror Are Slower Than They Appear!
Livin' in Paradise, in the Lovely 'Burbs of Chicago!
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I don't call it jitters, I call it C R S. Can't Remember $hit. 
My lugnuts have more torque than your ricer!
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I've just got part timers, going on all timers "if it's confusing as hell, thank a programmer; if it's difficult as hell, thank an engineer"
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Hey Bulldog, in yer signature you want to put <BR> between each line to break it, not the word "LINE".
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Eats Rice and Poops Out Fords!
Objects In Mirror Are Slower Than They Appear!
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Just wondering now that we are coming up on 2 months here. Are the software upgrades and our concerns any closer to being taken care of??? .
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12/18/2006
Long Island NY
Yup Jacket Too-
Old School Rules
Recycle- Crush an Import
Don't Mess With My Club - My Friends- Or My Ride-
http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/index.php?referral/39868/
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Hi Wheelman. Hmm, I thought we were coming up on 5 weeks or so since the new site went live but I could be wrong.
I haven't heard back about the software upgrade since I've been back. As for the concerns you've had being addressed, I remember you being concerned with having a painfully slow website - fixed, losing chat - still there, navigation hassles with black text on a black background in the forums - fixed. As for smilies - nope, an easy click and paste way to add pictures to posts - nope. I guess you're up on what you can do and can't do right now as much as anybody.
Things are closer to being resolved, not as fast as we'd like but you haven't been forgotten about.
Online Editor, Street Thunder Magazine Good at Stripping Nuts and Knuckles
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Sorry Wes that's not what i was referring to. I have said before you guys are doing a good Job and helping us out as well as solving most of our issues. It was6 weeks on the 19th but not relly concerned about that. I was just askin not griping. I was referring to(Issues) an On line Member list, a Registered user Directory, a PM notification on the Forums page( alert of some kind) Chat on thr Drop down menu under community, etc... Never heard an answer on that one and was just curious if they were going to be able to be put into affect. Guess I cameoff wrong, just being curious is all...........
* Life Member* - 12/18/2006 Long Island NY Yup Jacket Too- Old School Rules Recycle- Crush an Import Don't Mess With My Club - My Friends- Or My Ride- http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/index.php?referral/39868/
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No Sweat buddy, you didn't come off wrong!
Looks like we knocked some of the easy ones off our to do list and have a bunch more to go. :0)
"On line Member list, a Registered user Directory, a PM notification on the Forums page( alert of some kind) Chat on thr Drop down menu under community, etc... Never heard an answer on that one and was just curious if they were going to be able to be put into affect."
They're stalling on the drop down chat menu item because it will be integrated into the new system from the forums. The current PM system isn't ideal. I like having an email sent right away but can't easily respond so I feel your pain on that one... Pretty much everything you mentioned are basic functionality with the new software which is overdue for an upgrade.
Thanks for your patience, those are honest questions that you've had for a while so feel free to post them for sure. I'll find out what the latest info is because I have an internet meeting today.
Online Editor, Street Thunder Magazine Good at Stripping Nuts and Knuckles
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Hey Wheelman,
Our Admin tech guru just showed me screenshots of the updated forum software currently running on a test server and a different in house site. They've got most of the bugs worked out and will start updating our forums in the order the sites were updated - which means we're almost last. :0)
Some good news: Smilies look pretty good, PM'ing is WAY better than the current system, inline pictures look good as well and there's some other thigns like a little marker that pops up in the lists of discussion threads telling you someone's posted since the last time you opened it.
It might be a slow boat to China but it's a comin'
Thanks for your patience.
Wes
Online Editor, Street Thunder Magazine Good at Stripping Nuts and Knuckles
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Uncle Wes wrote: It might be a slow boat to China but it's a comin' I carr a window seat, Uncre Wes!!! ;) 
Eats Rice and Poops Out Fords! Objects In Mirror Are Slower Than They Appear! 391 Stroker, Tunnel Ram, Dual Quads, 16 Valve, Single Below-Head Cam Engine Member Since 2/22/05...Living in the Lovely 'Burbs of Chicago!
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Nice picture! Carr? Hmm, I hope the new system has spell check too. ;0)
Online Editor, Street Thunder Magazine Good at Stripping Nuts and Knuckles
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Uncle Wes wrote: Nice picture! Carr? Hmm, I hope the new system has spell check too. ;0) Wes, I'm sulplised (surprised) you don't know what that means! Ale (are) you carring (calling) me irritelate (illiterate)? Jeez....get back on the boat will ya?
Eats Rice and Poops Out Fords!
Objects In Mirror Are Slower Than They Appear!
391 Stroker, Tunnel Ram, Dual Quads, 16 Valve, Single Below-Head Cam Engine
Member Since 2/22/05...Living in the Lovely 'Burbs of Chicago!
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hello to all my friends this is the first time i have been on in a long time and i like how its coming an i still cant get my pic back up but any ways im glad to be back ( had to replace powersuply in computer) an cant wate till we have chat back. well tc everyone an have a good day
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75Ventura wrote: hello to all my friends this is the first time i have been on in a long time and i like how its coming an i still cant get my pic back up but any ways im glad to be back ( had to replace powersuply in computer) an cant wate till we have chat back. well tc everyone an have a good day. Vent- we nver lost Chat it's still there. http://forums.streetmachineclub.com/eve/chime link to Chat
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12/18/2006
Long Island NY
Yup Jacket Too-
Old School Rules
Recycle- Crush an Import
Don't Mess With My Club - My Friends- Or My Ride-
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welcome back 75 , its a bummer when the magic box brakes
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